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Old 06-29-2008, 02:34 AM   #1
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We have also added the new Human Male and Human Female Arc Farion guns as well as ammo to the trading post. These guns are the Lv17 Death Guns that I gotta say are pretty awesome. Be sure to check one out.=)
WTF???

Aye Jason!!!!

What happend to your statment that "Every thing in the Tradeing Post WILL NOT GIVE AN UNFAIR PLAYER ADVANTAGE, EVERY THING WILL ONLY BE COSMETIC."

hmmm, lvl 17 Arc Farion Death gun... So if it is only cosmetic, and doesn't give ANY KIND OF advantage over someone who cant buy the gun, then it must be a water gun? Shoots duds? back fires?

Come to think of it the cool lil space ship with its gun and sheild give a much bigger player advantage then these Farion guns do...

Please explain why this is? Some thing be screwy in my eye just want some light turned on this dark subject.

I am not *****ing complaning blah blah blah you know my usualy rountine I say to avoid getting banned.. I am not posting this because I don't have the money to buy any of this and get an advantage, I do have money to buy all those cool little gadgets just haven't played more then 1 hour since the game released but want and might get back into EA if my life calms down enough to permit me to play.

Thanks, Jason, Developers, GM's, and all my freinds and foes who may answer this question.
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The game needs money, and it's not getting it, and it would have no income at all if it only had cosmetic items, not saying that I support the trade post but what can you do.
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Plus... I think they should sell all kinds of custom gear and guns at the trading post. As long as you have the level for it.

People need to get a grip on the fact that this is the World. Its run on Capitalism and Finance. They need Money to fnd the game.

Plus This is the way the world works. Some people *have* things because they can afford it and some people cant. Its the same in game with gold as well. You guys are WAY to into protectiing all the information and hoarding and controling the game within your clans. You are not going to keep and mantain a big user base like that anyway.

There will be quest items and store items. PRobably what will happen once the game gets rolling is the Quest items will be Superior to the store items even at the same level. Or perhaps for a ton of cash you can get an uber something.

Who knows its a game, with pvp and Quests... Its all fun.
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Old 06-29-2008, 06:17 AM   #4
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I dont see what so many of you people have against the trading post. Have you payed other free to play mmos lately ? There are hundreds of them and they virtually ALL work like this.
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Hey Impact, long time no see.

I think it's safe to say that the 17 death gun was put in the TP because the game needs to generate money. What good is the cosmetics without the game? Obvious is just obvious.

I'm sure that Jason shall address this himself though when possible. In the mean time, if you would like to maybe give suggestions as to what else could go into TP, please feel free to do so. I'm sure we all agree, we'd like to see the game survive.

thanks for your thoughts.

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at this current time items like that need to be in the TP in the future when we start to get more players I would hope more cosmetic items are added and we shift away from advantage items
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:06 AM   #7
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Hey Impact, long time no see.

I think it's safe to say that the 17 death gun was put in the TP because the game needs to generate money. What good is the cosmetics without the game? Obvious is just obvious.

I'm sure that Jason shall address this himself though when possible. In the mean time, if you would like to maybe give suggestions as to what else could go into TP, please feel free to do so. I'm sure we all agree, we'd like to see the game survive.

thanks for your thoughts.

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Good to see you also oogs, and grats on becomeing a Head GM =)

Thank you for clearing this issue up for me, maybe I should stay on top of the game more so I don't have to ask randomly stupid questions :P. But, since this post is here, and I haven't played much, I might as well ask an even more shocking question that poped into my head with your answer to my first question. (more like several more questions).

1) Is the player base lacking again? Or has it ever really built back up from the "Booster" era?
2) How much is EA struggleing right now? Last I heard the game had more than enough money to support it's self, I think I heard that from Jason but don't quote me it's been a few months.
3) I would love to get back into EndlessAges again, but I am afraid I don't want to throw away my money if the game should go 'belly up'. Is this a likely chance?
4) Are the Items in the item mall such as the Arc Farion guns and the Razor Space craft (sheild and gun also) non-drop items? When the game does pick back up will these items be removed (thus being a waste of money and not worth even bothering with)?

Players please put your input in for my questions also, much appreciated.

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Old 06-29-2008, 08:26 AM   #8
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Impact, the best thing to do to get caught up on the the status of the game from a monetary perspective is to read through this post:

Server Down Time & Funding Issues

You'll see that some added server costs had caused some short-term funding issues. Those have been resolved, but the player base needs to step up and support the game so future problems don't arise. You'll see from the player responses that people are stepping up. This should work until fixes and features are added to draw and hold a larger player base to allow the TP to cover the costs.
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Well, I can't answer all of those, but I'll go ahead give you my thoughts and answer some.

1. There are many old players, as well as the occasional newcomer to the game. I'd say it's about the same, or even a little better, with all the old veterans back =)
2. Yes. Silent has graciously paid for the server this month, but the game is in need of funding. See here for details. Server Down Time & Funding Issues
3. I highly doubt it. Jason and Silent went out of their way to create DME and revive Endless Ages back from the dead. They want this to succeed as much as we do, and it is highly unlikely that they will let it die again. If anything, god forbid, does happen, it will likely be nothing but a temporary server downtime, in order to amass enough funds to fund the server for another month. The time we've been playing so far has mostly be coming out of their very own pockets.
4. Yes, the Arc Farion/Shockion guns as well as the Orb of Razor and its items are nondrop. The duals and the vehicles are nondrop as well. I'm pretty sure magic scrolls are nondrop as well. The jetpacks and wings, however, are droppable.

Welcome back Impact =)
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Old 06-29-2008, 09:02 AM   #10
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When Jason and I first released EA, we thought subscriptions would support it.
We included the Trading Post/item mall as a means to add things to improve the looks of your character.
Well so far, non of these methods of generating revenue have proven very sucsessful.
We obviously have a way to go getting our game fully functional, bug free and polished. Perhaps it shouldn't have been released before it was ready, but due to the number of requests we received it was.
I'm certain, once the game is complete, we will have thousands of players, and it will be a success. Until then, it must support itself.
We have had a great many suggestions for things to add to the Trading Post, but most require coding which we cannot do in house at the moment (and would prefer that team to concentrate on game functions/features/bugs).
We could have flooded the TP with cool weapons and such, but did not. We are a company that listens to it's players. We want you to have a awesome experience in EA, but (I'm sure you'll all agree) it must support itself.
I see a post now and then saying we haven't kept our word as far as "no unfair advantage".
This policy was when we had subscriptions to support the game. Obviously subscriptions failed due to the experience the players had with the previous owners.
What we have now is the Trading Post.
Trust me, we are not going to ruin the game with the TP. Not good business.
To those who have concerns regarding this issue, We are all ears. Please feel free to voice you ideas.
Endless Ages IS progressing, give it some time. Please, give us suggestion, not complaints.
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When Jason and I first released EA, we thought subscriptions would support it.
We included the Trading Post/item mall as a means to add things to improve the looks of your character.
Well so far, non of these methods of generating revenue have proven very sucsessful.
We obviously have a way to go getting our game fully functional, bug free and polished. Perhaps it shouldn't have been released before it was ready, but due to the number of requests we received it was.
I'm certain, once the game is complete, we will have thousands of players, and it will be a success. Until then, it must support itself.
We have had a great many suggestions for things to add to the Trading Post, but most require coding which we cannot do in house at the moment (and would prefer that team to concentrate on game functions/features/bugs).
We could have flooded the TP with cool weapons and such, but did not. We are a company that listens to it's players. We want you to have a awesome experience in EA, but (I'm sure you'll all agree) it must support itself.
I see a post now and then saying we haven't kept our word as far as "no unfair advantage".
This policy was when we had subscriptions to support the game. Obviously subscriptions failed due to the experience the players had with the previous owners.
What we have now is the Trading Post.
Trust me, we are not going to ruin the game with the TP. Not good business.
To those who have concerns regarding this issue, We are all ears. Please feel free to voice you ideas.
Endless Ages IS progressing, give it some time. Please, give us suggestion, not complaints.
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Here's a suggestion. If a product is not finished and polished do not try to get money for it. Take the server down, and release it when it is ready.
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Old 06-29-2008, 02:04 PM   #12
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wow old Impact had return..still creating chaos =P j/p
But yea at this point EA does need to do everything it can do to earn money.
And i agree with Choob that things being marketed to us should be perfected before its put up to buy, like the 17 guns and THE POLYS!!...>.<
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I enjoy playing ea but I don't see how anyone believes this game will ever have thousands of players, it didn't even have more than a few hundred when it was actually cutting edge like 8 years ago.
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Although the Thousands OF Players mark is somewhat far atm...who knows, all the team can do is continue to improve the game and make it bigger...and hopefully it will turn into a game that ppl will have fun playing for a few years before quitting if ever. You just gotta have optimism.
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I thought this idea for the TP wasnt going to last. I was correct. Although I thought Jason said (As so did Impact)That they had enough for the first year. Thats why I didn't like the advantages in the TP. But now I got back and on the comp this week and was reading through the post and threads that they need money for the server? I'm a bit unsure of what happened there and I think that I, along with many others of us, want to know what happened. Ill go skim so posts and see what I can find. :P
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I'm sorry to say that due to lack of funding from players that the servers will be going offline until such a time that I can generate enough personal funds to pay our server bills. Our main server machines have been paid up for a year but due to growth and needed server configuration machines we've had to upgrade and add 3 more servers to our configuration and as such we are short about 700$ on our bill.
Is that web server or ingame server cause I dont think that there have been more active users on than before. Could you explain this a little more cause im confuzzled. :{
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Or we could just add other weapons/items of equal rarity or value for other races and such.

I know a con to this would probably that some people might think this is a disadvantage to the people who can't access the TP ( like me). But EA still needs the money for now to keep the game running. Once it has more players and sponsors/subscribers, everything then could be balanced out.

And if EA can keep running, I know that it will be able to succeed because EA IS THE MOST AWESOME GAME EVER AND ITS A GREAT FPS!!!!!!
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If you read a little further you would've seen that Jason and Brandon (didn't forget you!) needed more servers for EA, which weren't paid for for a year, which is where they need money, because they're running out, money don't grow on trees, esp. when you're in America and we all know America is going to hell.

And Choob you have a point, but it's easier to find bugs when there are more people around to "test". It's pretty easy to miss a really small thing that leads to a lot of broken things (like a single semi colon). Games need some kind of testing, and it helps to have x amount of people playing while the very small dev team fixes things that come up. Granted the only experience I have in coding games was a really crappy 2D Mortal Kombat knock off in Visual Basic, but logically it makes sense.
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I dont think we need to gp P2P... That isnt going to pay even if you get enough people the TP will bring in more even though its slightly unfare. (Slightly? Lol) But why is there a need for new server type deals? The ingame player bace is just about the same as it was a month ago...
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No one has really answered my biggest question yet...

Is EA in danger of failing once more (I mean within the next few months to next few years kind of deal)? I don't want to dump a lot of money into EA again if it's going to waste. I dumped 6 years of money into EA and it went belly up, I could spend 6 years of the money at the item mall right now. I DON'T WANT TO WASTE THAT MUCH MONEY AGAIN..

We all can agree, it's better to make sure OUR investment into helping support EA wont be a bad decission.

Good to see you are on top of player/customer concern. That is a big improvement.

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wow old Impact had return..still creating chaos =P j/p
But yea at this point EA does need to do everything it can do to earn money.
And i agree with Choob that things being marketed to us should be perfected before its put up to buy, like the 17 guns and THE POLYS!!...>.<

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Ant gonna say Im back because I never left this mutha****a =)


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We have no problem finding the bugs, they have a problem fixing them... there are dozens of reported and yet to be fixed bugs from weeks-month ago... so finding the bugs is definitely not the problem.
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We have no problem finding the bugs, they have a problem fixing them... there are dozens of reported and yet to be fixed bugs from weeks-month ago... so finding the bugs is definitely not the problem.

That statment has been true since EA opend it's doors. lol
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