Where is the player base??? - Endless Ages

Deathlight · 08-16-2008, 01:12 PM

The title says it all, there is almost no one playing anymore, hell as a member of ZT the most active and largest clan ingame we make up like 75% of the community maybe more. It seems everyday there are less and less people playing, which is a real downer when you log in and there are only 10 people on and 7 of them are your clan mates who have pretty much done everything there is to do ingame and seem to only be around to help their friends get to the end game they have already reached. There needs to be something done to draw new players to EA-R or it will have one fo the shortest lifes spans ever for an online game. The new players that are joining can rarely get help since there are so few people still playing, most of the clans that started out a big are now reduced to almost no activity, the players that were active and not in a clan have stopped logging in for the most part as well do to the rediculous diffulculty lvl if you dont actively train ss till lvl 15-16. I have not used my guns for anything at all other than pvp or pking since they are completely useless for the most part when it comes to hunting. Some drops are at a rediculous lvl, so low you can kill hundreds upon hundreds and get 1 or no drops. Then other drops are way to easy. There is absolutely no balance in the game. On top of all this we have seen absolutely no imformation on new patches or even any real patches go into the game for quite a while. The game crashes more than ever, and there is no consistency in latency, it seems everyday you will either have horrible lag or just spikes every now and then, but over the last few months i have not logged in and exeprienced a relatively lag free experience like i was before certain things like auction were added in.

Everything I have mentioned are primary factors to the community getting smaller and smaller. Something needs to happen, some how the game needs to gain more active users either through advertisement or forceful abduction, even my friends from other games refuse to play EA not because they dont like the type of game it is, but because to them it just another f2p game that is dieing, and there is no point of them investing the time and money in a game that they feel will just tank. I am not a hardcore gamer, I dont like spending hours upon hours every day on a game but I have stuck around in EA because it is a profoundly satisfying game with a great community(when there is one), that alone will not keep most gamers around, they want to feel secure that their money spent is going towards the improvement and expansion of the game. Every successful online game has one major thing in common, regular updates and patches and expansion to improve and extend the gameplay. Even f2p games have to do the same as those with pay to play otherwise it strangles itself and dies.

I am sorry if any one is offended by this post but I had to post it, the state of the community and game is just too alarming to ignore any more.

PeterTheLeader · 08-16-2008, 01:36 PM

Well, I stopped playing because I have things in RL right now coming up, school, work, and my personal hobby. Plus, macroing lost it's fun.

Prepare for the excuses that we need to give it time, we don't have funding, or w/e else their fancy is at the moment.

**Telos** · 08-16-2008, 02:18 PM

I don't really have a good response for this. Jason will find a server to host this game no matter what the case, but i'm really the only content person right now. I could make a million quests, but making rewards for those quests is a different story. I've already said that armaggeddon is gone, and there is nobody else around doing any modeling for the moment. Where bugs are concerned I am mostly helpless to fix them right now. Some bugs are fixable from the engine, some are only fixable from the client or server source code. I only have the engine, and even if I did have the source code of those 2 things it would be no small task learning the ins and outs. I am getting some progress on a new http based patcher which should fix many problems, but stability issues (other than ai, which aaron is to fix for free) all require money. I know DME is selling another asset of theirs for money to do much of what is needed to be done, but it means little to me personally. All I can say is that for better or worse, Jason wants to keep this game up, and anyone working on it does so only because they like the game so much.

Rolled · 08-16-2008, 04:11 PM

Telos, if your in need of someone to do modeling(think you all do it thru 3ds max correct?) I'm sure you could post a request for community members. Theres probably a few around here that know how to do 3d modeling. Also theres probably loads of ppl who would be willing to contribute there time for free from the various game modding communities since those guys would luv to have another game title under their belt and in their portfolio.

Telos if you dont mind me asking though, how do you plan to bring in necessary fixes and changes if Aaron is the sole person able to do that thru the engine source. Will he be like an ongoing contracted person to do this? Cause if I understand you correctly basically you all right now only have the power to mod the game and cant touch any of the actual source code to it?

Choobinator · 08-16-2008, 05:09 PM

to me, the trade post did it, mostly.

i don't like it when somebody says they're going to do something a certain way and they don't do it that way.

i.e. cosmetics only, now turned into their main source of cash thru obviously more then just cosmetics..

i'm still waiting for that 1500 player base Jason promised, and the advertising that's going to happen, and the serious revival of a great game... will it ever happen?

**Telos** · 08-16-2008, 05:21 PM

Its hard for me to say honestly rolled, reguarding any contacting. I am hoping that with selling their asset they will license the aura source(it really isn't very expensive), but I am unrelated to things like this. I'm a volunteer, so it really isn't my business, and I only know what I get told.

Beyond that, I've already urged in a thread about modeling for any players to submit things, keeping in mind it must be in 3ds max format and properly animated/textured to be implemented.

Furthermore, anyone who submits promising material I would be willing to pass the original model files to, this would make it possible to make armors and weapons fit the game better.

ArceusSP · 08-16-2008, 08:38 PM

Agreed Choob i once thought that too, and almost decided to stop playing until it got better. But then it occured to me This might be my one chance to play this game before it might be gone for ever with no chance of coming back if i wait for it to get better... Sure I cant stand the TP as well i mean im a BL with barley full 15 but when i look on how far i went to get that armor it always doesnt mean anything because of the other BLs going around in fulll 17 BloodThorn armor. Afterwards i didnt really care all i thought was i am gonna play this game and get to the end before it goes away for good or if it doesnt im still playing it...
A simple summary of all this would be: If you can't beat them Join them.
So i started buying stuff of TP too not just to get even haha but to help the game.

P.S. To Telos, why did Arma leave?

Killjoy · 08-16-2008, 09:55 PM

ive already suggested that the devs invest in the players who will mod for free it seems late... once there is a larger content/modding team and if they do it all on latnias working servers which will cut the costs dramatically and they will have more money to get the game up and running and advertise. the world needs to know about this great game. once the team has increased and the advertising is up and servers are from latnia then this game can show its true colours

8bitmessiah · 08-16-2008, 10:23 PM

I wouldn't complain to much about the small player base because this game can't handle any sort of real player base anyway. There is no way it could handle a large online crowd I mean just think about it for a minute then explain to me how you could even have a mere 250+ players actually playing online at the same time imagine how bad the camping would be at every stage of the game this game was not properly designed for any sort of real player base the original dev team listened far to closely to a very small player base and based the game around them and in doing so made the game utterly flawed for any sort of real population the only way to actually have a decent amount of players in EA would be to instance pretty much every zone and dungeon.

solodynasty · 08-16-2008, 10:59 PM

Yeah, you can run through everyzone from end to end in under 5 minutes which is why all the other zones were added but I dont see em in game yet. They need to fix the game up and add more areas to go before they get a gigantic player base like WoW.

8bitmessiah · 08-17-2008, 12:17 AM

imagine how many people would be camping the lvl 15 emblem it would be stupid to all hell

Kermit · 08-17-2008, 12:42 PM

then there coould be a pk fest until whoever doesn't give up gets to camp it. it would be fun

ArceusSP · 08-17-2008, 05:46 PM

Lol Kerm thats sort of wat im going through right now with Xarogen.

gvsuchris · 08-17-2008, 09:04 PM

I heard of this game through Wikipedia about 2 weeks ago searching for MMOFPS. Maybe if someone could add a specific article it would help some, and it would be free. Just a thought.

I love this game, but only a lvl 4 and want to get to the end game with every class at least.

Kermit · 08-17-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gvsuchris

I heard of this game through Wikipedia about 2 weeks ago searching for MMOFPS. Maybe if someone could add a specific article it would help some, and it would be free. Just a thought.

I love this game, but only a lvl 4 and want to get to the end game with every class at least.

good to see a new face(and by face I definitly mean name) around

NeOpHyte · 08-18-2008, 04:01 AM

I log on many times a day... no people on = neo goes macro... and play something else 0.o

ShaDow · 08-18-2008, 11:05 AM

People doesnt play because Dev doesn't fix bugs.

And for all the reasons Choobinator said.

**oogie** · 08-18-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Choobinator

to me, the trade post did it, mostly.

i don't like it when somebody says they're going to do something a certain way and they don't do it that way.

i.e. cosmetics only, now turned into their main source of cash thru obviously more then just cosmetics..

i'm still waiting for that 1500 player base Jason promised, and the advertising that's going to happen, and the serious revival of a great game... will it ever happen?

Let's just be honest here. Things are on the verge and have been for a while now of changing. Now the means for the change are on the event horizon so to speak. Keep your eyes open, you may see the things you want.....

oogs

goldbott · 08-18-2008, 12:49 PM

Well i think that a lot of work has gone into restoring EA and everyone working on it should be credited for that however the current reason why people don't seem to want to join is simply because its not as much fun. But i trust Oogie so ill just have to hope that something new happens to make the game better not only for people with cash but anyone who joins.

Koi Kitsune2006 · 08-19-2008, 02:09 AM

I only stopped playing because in game, no one was willing to show me the ropes, be a friend, or help me advance. Usually I don't have problems doing this in MMO's, for some reason I did in this one. No offense. I do check back now and then hoping to see progress.

**GM_Solstice** · 08-19-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Koi Kitsune2006

I only stopped playing because in game, no one was willing to show me the ropes, be a friend, or help me advance. Usually I don't have problems doing this in MMO's, for some reason I did in this one. No offense. I do check back now and then hoping to see progress.

add me to msn and ill give you some starter help and see if i cant help you meet new people and get the ropes in hand

Atlow · 08-19-2008, 03:47 PM

They released the game WAY to early because of all the crying people did because they wanted to play the game, NOW!!11 New players didn't understand because nothing worked and they left and other people like myself (im sure i'm not alone) are just watching from the sidelines until a finished product is fully delivered (close, but not quite there yet). It's really not the dev teams, or anyone else involved in making the games fault, it's the impatient players that whined when they heard the news about the game being revived. Much <3 to Jason and every1 else that's a part of rebuilding the game, but IMO stop wasting your money pleasing 25-30 people by paying for servers and rerelease when it's done and you have 100% control over it.

kipperlips1 · 08-19-2008, 05:15 PM

im waiting for a version of EA that is as