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Sirkillalot · 08-01-2008, 01:02 AM

Good job on adding 17 BL armor and making it POINTLESS to farm 15 armor or even do any armor quests.. whats next CHALIS IN TP? lets just make the game based on TP and AFK macroing a boss to use the items please. ty

you guys need to seriously think of what in the world you guys are doing to this game cause I have seen a decrease of people playing big time from when it was live. People that use to play way back then pretty much quit or dont play much anymore again..

samtheman768 · 08-01-2008, 01:32 AM

I hope this isnt going to be ugly O.o

Mireillu · 08-01-2008, 03:16 AM

It's very kewl looking, BLs have been in need of such a stylish armor for a long time.

But, what are the resistances ? Cuz as much of an arse SKA is, he kinda has a point here.

RYSTIC · 08-01-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirkillalot

Good job on adding 17 BL armor and making it POINTLESS to farm 15 armor or even do any armor quests.. whats next CHALIS IN TP? lets just make the game based on TP and AFK macroing a boss to use the items please. ty

you guys need to seriously think of what in the world you guys are doing to this game cause I have seen a decrease of people playing big time from when it was live. People that use to play way back then pretty much quit or dont play much anymore again..

I feel what your saying ""BUT"" The game has to make money!

goldbott · 08-01-2008, 05:49 AM

its all about balencing the amount of power you can earn and what you can buy. right now there are still many things in the game you have to get through no matter how much cash you have. The game just needs cash.

**GM_Solstice** · 08-01-2008, 06:35 AM

4 words is all that is needed here

Give It Some Time

a game of this magnatude cannot be expected to be perfect within the first 6 months of its life you must remember that even 5 - 6 months its still in its infancy stage, but it is growing ans will attrack ne players. whats stoping new players and running of old ones is this constant battle of complaints no one is giving the time required for the suggestions/complaints to be evaluated, accepted/rejected, designed, tested, redesigned if need be, tested again, then if all goes well implemented. It takes quite a long time to implement even the simplest of items like a sword for instance could take upto 3-6 weeks just to get it serverside and thiat is if its the only project being worked on. its not drag and drop design that the Devs are doing they have to hard code thousands of lines of code into the game b4 they can even start to see the item let alone use it ... for 1 melee weapn there is around (rough estimate here ) 150 thousand lines of code and dont forget the animations sounds graphis and physics. Most of you have only PLAYERD games and never desinged please bare with teh Staff as we are trying our hardest to "Provide" you with a "Free" and enjoyable Playing experience and once again all that we ask is that you give us the time to do it and stop complainnig about the same issues over and over again.

Thank you
GM Solstice

Hellbinder · 08-01-2008, 08:10 AM

SKA 99% of the playes that left didnt do it becuase if the TP.

plus i have owned arch farrion for over a month and i still cant use it and have been doing quests.

maybe 1 person (i really wnt to say no one) is going to AFK macro the entire game and just buy stuff on the TP. Your point is completely over egagerated.

Da Vinci · 08-01-2008, 10:32 AM

i say, if they put things like the BL 17 armor up on TP take all the resistances away, just make it aesthetic.
if they want it with resistances make them quest for it.

PeterTheLeader · 08-01-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GM_Solstice

its not drag and drop design that the Devs are doing they have to hard code thousands of lines of code into the game b4 they can even start to see the item let alone use it ...

Wow, they don't have a system where they plug in damage, level requirements, channel, armor protection, and stat requirements? That's fail right there. It should take like 10-20 seconds to throw in a new weapon (excluding the graphics part of it, of course). You think high budget games like WoW or EQ hard code EVERY spell and weapon? This game is going to go nowhere fast if they don't have an easy interface that automatically puts that stuff in.

**Telos** · 08-01-2008, 02:33 PM

Er, we don't have to hard code things like models and items, but they do need to be made in 3ds max obviously.

Sirkillalot · 08-01-2008, 06:57 PM

My point is more of me being in full 15 and no quests or anything to do. They come out with 17 armor and im like omg cool.. but then all i do is click 1 button buy the armor and im back to the beginning of having nothing to do.

LordOfWar · 08-01-2008, 07:11 PM

Items don't have to be "made" in 3ds max, they can be made in any program that exports to a 3ds max file, then 3ds max can import it.

and you do need a special plugin to export for their game engine as well.

The only thing that has to be hardcoded is new features, and when most people hardcode that they throw in a gui to make it easy to edit

PeterTheLeader · 08-01-2008, 09:04 PM

So ya guys use 3DS max instead of MAYA eh? I know it's cheaper, don't know how much though. My school uses it for the 3D programming course, which I am going to take this semester. I'll probably throw in some guns or something when I learn about it, provided my 3D art will not be as crappy as my photoshop/illustrator art is...

**GM Latnia** · 08-01-2008, 11:03 PM

If you all would just slow down a little bit here. Everything GM Solstice said is true, being a programmer and graphics designer myself I know what he is talking about. It takes time and not just like what Peter mentioned "It should take like 10-20 seconds to throw in a new weapon" it does not work that way peter get your head out of the books for a few minutes. If all the players would just stop and worry about the whole game a minute and not just worry about getting to level X in 3 weeks there wouldn't be all this groveling. Ask yourself this how much of the game have I really played? vs How much of the game did I skip while I was in SS form to get to where I am today.

ArceusSP · 08-01-2008, 11:26 PM

SKA just give it some time a lot of people know that it is ruining the balance of power ingame but THE GAME NEEDS MONEY to live do u want EA to go back to the ashes? I like this for a change people wont have to fear u coming to PK them now that there is better armor out for BLs infact it might be vice versa for a change eh ska? Like Solstice said give it some time or a new income way... We are all trying to contribute but some people like you are holding us back by whinning.

PeterTheLeader · 08-01-2008, 11:38 PM

Yeah, to create the actual thing I know it doesn't take a short amount of time, yet it doesn't take weeks, close to a month, to throw in a new set like they did with blobs in the TP for the gear. People are complaining that they want things to do. They don't care if it's quests, gear, what ever. There is very very little to do besides grinding/power leveling and don't pretend there isn't.

If the ability to macro on mobs wasn't there, I'd quit due to how little there is here. There are few chain quests to do and after that there is nothing. You have the champion, race (crests/badges/gidions), armor, SS, 2 rings, magic, vehicle, 2 extractor, weapon, rune and a couple misc. quests. There are probably 15 quests total. If there are more I haven't seen them and would love to go after them. Also, half those quests are linked to each other (need certain level badge or w/e for armor quest, complete championship to continue SS quest, etc...). That's about 1-2 months worth of content right there (75% spending time looking for what the quest wants. If player guides and telling others where things were were banned, I'd probably quit to trying to find something.). That including power leveling also. I had often gotten to a point where I'd have to grind a long time until I learned about ash. It was fun then (still is because I have yet to finish all the quests) because I now have quests available to me. Most people have already completed it and have nothing to do but PK people. They could create another character, but that's not to everyone's taste and they'd have to power level all over again.

The new mount is pretty cool, but right now the major complaint is that there is nothing to do. Throw in product quests like "I need 10,000 gun powder", throw in "I need 500 shockian claws" anything that's a quest concealing actual grinding, and throw in 2-3% WP/MC for it. I'm sure putting in quests are a lot easier than anything else they are working on.

The time I have been here there has been one thing that has risen up time and time again- something to do. Events, quests, new TP items, anything to get something done. People say they want to lower the EXP. gained (as per the ongoing AFK- battle skills thread). It's only so they feel good about themselves because it's something they feel has a light at the end. The problem right now isn't more armor or more TP items. Forget about programming race orbs and all that stuff. Just throw in more quests. Adding quests should be incredibly easy through the trading post:

Step 1: NPC asks for a specific item that can ONLY be gotten through the trading post (There are tons of NPC's that don't say anything or do anything important, use one of them).
Step 2: Deliver item to NPC and you start your quest.
Step 3: Collect items (whether items from extractor, trade skills, mobs, w/e).
Step 4: Complete quest and get reward (should be something good since it's from TP like 2-3% WP/MC for level 16)

Sure, players might trade the quest items to others, but who cares? They buy 2, one to sell to another player (who most likely WON'T buy it from the TP or can't. Even if the player would, you still get your money) and one for him/herself. Throw in 5-6 of those for 20 tokens each and BAM more money for EA and no more bored players. Throw in 5-6 more a couple weeks later and your good to go.

If you want quest ideas, I'd be happy to throw them out there.

I understand the "please wait guys" but you could at least give something to do for those with nothing else.

**Jason Lee** · 08-02-2008, 12:46 AM

When we have enough money to support the game without items such as the lv17 bl armor we will sell only cosmetic items and make quests for the better stuff.

Until that time unfortunately we have to do whatever we can do, even if it means selling the lv17 blobic armor and other items like it.

Da Vinci · 08-02-2008, 05:03 AM

well, *not to gripe*, untill then EA is gonna be boring.........

Choobinator · 08-02-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirkillalot

Good job on adding 17 BL armor and making it POINTLESS to farm 15 armor or even do any armor quests.. whats next CHALIS IN TP? lets just make the game based on TP and AFK macroing a boss to use the items please. ty

you guys need to seriously think of what in the world you guys are doing to this game cause I have seen a decrease of people playing big time from when it was live. People that use to play way back then pretty much quit or dont play much anymore again..

dont waste your breath. there will always be people for and against everything... if you against it, you kno what to do.

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When we have enough money to support the game without items such as the lv17 bl armor we will sell only cosmetic items and make quests for the better stuff.

Until that time unfortunately we have to do whatever we can do, even if it means selling the lv17 blobic armor and other items like it.

in case of clarification, each month there needs to be a certain amount of money pouring into this game via players.

IF; money is met each month then there will be a decline in 'overpowered' or 'cheating' (w/e you wanna call them) items - and an increase in cosmetics.

too bad people have to continually buy things in order to meet the server demands.

if you don't understand then i'll be blunt - this is how things are going to be.

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a lot of people know that it is ruining the balance of power ingame but THE GAME NEEDS MONEY to live do u want EA to go back to the ashes?

Da Vinci · 08-02-2008, 09:32 AM

if this is really the case, which it seems to be....
then why not add stuff to the TP that ppl will be forced to by over and over, most of the stuff in there now is like one time buy and thats it........

PeterTheLeader · 08-02-2008, 11:33 AM

PLENTY of people have agreed to overpowering items in the TP IF there was a quest along with it. This is just a huge cry for help, how much longer are you guys going to go for quick cash and **** others off? Hell, you make it boring because you can just buy everything and you LOSE players because there is nothing else in the game. You just go back to square one even faster this way. THROW IN TP QUEST ITEMS. MAKE THEM REPEATABLE. Don't just go for the quick buck by throwing over powered items in the TP for minimal effort. What the hell kinda game is this? Is this really where you guys want to go? Sacrificing something that should enjoyable and fun the first moment a dollar idea is waived in your face? Think things through the money. Yes, you need money. Money comes through people willing to pay for this game because they see value in it. Don't give me any BS "we need to get money any way we can" or "we don't have the man power" this is YOUR game, not someone else's. You put the time, effort, and money in it. You should have KNOWN right from the beginning there would be trouble. You guys are damned lucky people are pitching in the money I have seen floating in the forums.

**GM Latnia** · 08-02-2008, 11:53 AM

Peter easy on the cussing it's not needed, there are other ways to vent besides that.

Sirkillalot · 08-02-2008, 12:15 PM

peter is so right its not even funny. WE all have given awesome ideas for the TP and not one are being looked at as peter said and you guys are just putting the items it self and not quests for the items. quick buck as what it ssaid