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Old 03-30-2008, 09:51 AM   #1
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Subscription Fees???

ok guys Now we all love Endless Ages for all its glory but here's my question to you. Are you willing to pay $10 a month for a game right off the bat from its possible May 2008 re-release? IMO I think that DME's best bet would be to launch the game with a free to play status for a month or so to slowly make sure everything goes steady off of Beta and that everyone is happy. Then they should pull an MMOLands and let the people who don't want to pay, continue to play in BoomTown but the people who want the rest of the game pay a ONE TIME fee of $50-$60 and have an online store for special items of armor or weapons and so on. This way paying is more like an option than an absolute necessity and it will more likely than not give the game an even bigger cult following. I mean if years after its release and fall, people like us still took the time to search for it then I think there will be plenty of people buying extras to make a decent profit.

so Monthly? or 1 time with extras?
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:06 AM   #2
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I disagree. Having an item shop like the one you speak of would give players who are in a better economic position to have an unfair advantage over the other players. Also, you can play for free right now, in open alpha/beta. Payments are only for when the game goes live. There also will be trials after live, so new players can get a feel of the game, similar to Boomtown + MMOLands.
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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Old 03-30-2008, 02:20 PM   #4
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Well the Boomtown idea won't work, cause Boomtown won't be used as it was anymore. So if everyone got to play for free in one area, it would have to be the mainworld, and there they could just play the whole game for free basically.

With a one time fee, you have to keep bringing expansions (and I mean real expansions, not just updates or the way Blizzard makes expansions by putting a new paint job on something they already put out) and those would have to cost x amount of money.

Site store has already been brought up before, and it's been decided that the only things going in the site store are silly things that have no impact on the game what so ever, because unlike other free MMORPGs, this game actually takes a bit of skill and getting your nd armor for no ingame work is really cheap, not to mention you miss out on a lot of important quests that move the storyline forward.

In the end, it's extremely difficult to make a long term profit off of a one time payment, unless you keep making new large expansions all the time, and that won't fit into DME's plans. The idea works well in some games like Guild Wars, but in the end there's no way to actually make a long term profit, only a short term one really, so the monthly thing is the way to go. I can understand as much as anyone not wanting to pay people you don't particularly like *cough MAFIAA cough* but it's worth paying someone you like for something you actually want.
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:48 PM   #5
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only problem with that is that they never get to really experience pvp, which is why the 14 day or whatever trial is there, so you can at least potentially get to a point where you can pvp.
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ok guys Now we all love Endless Ages for all its glory but here's my question to you. Are you willing to pay $10 a month for a game right off the bat from its possible May 2008 re-release? IMO I think that DME's best bet would be to launch the game with a free to play status for a month or so to slowly make sure everything goes steady off of Beta and that everyone is happy. Then they should pull an MMOLands and let the people who don't want to pay, continue to play in BoomTown but the people who want the rest of the game pay a ONE TIME fee of $50-$60 and have an online store for special items of armor or weapons and so on. This way paying is more like an option than an absolute necessity and it will more likely than not give the game an even bigger cult following. I mean if years after its release and fall, people like us still took the time to search for it then I think there will be plenty of people buying extras to make a decent profit.

so Monthly? or 1 time with extras?
i agree that something needs to be different otherwise this thing will drop faster than phylon....man that game sucked
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Old 03-30-2008, 05:57 PM   #7
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I'll admit I don't particularly see any need for money (seeing as it's completely imaginary and made up by people to take the easy way out) but they need to make a profit some how. You can't just have a one time pay and that's it unless you make people pay for expansions every few months, which won't fit in with DME's current plan. They don't plan on focusing only on EA, they wanna bring back a multitude of old games, and they're only a small company. You have to think as if you were in their shoes, can you really live off of maybe 1000 (being generous) 1 time $50 payments? $50k won't last a lifetime, infact, in California you'll maybe last a year (not including any costs that would have to be made). There's no way that it would work successfully and EA will fail even faster. Plus, there's big discounts for subscribing for more than a month, so it isn't so bad.
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:08 PM   #8
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I'm amazed, Kane actually did something cool.
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:19 PM   #9
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It's really not up to any of us to decide the payment fate of EA. Entirely up to the guys bringing it back.

I've got a hunch that a monthly fee is the route though. This is a game you either love or hate. If ya dig the game, 10 bucks is pennies to the average Mc Donalds worker. 10 bucks is pennies to the average pot head too. Yeah, its a little bit of a money pit per month, but if you spend more then 3 hours a month playin the game it works out to be more cost effective then going to see a movie twice in a month.

Save the theatre cash - use torrents - enjoy your EA.

We're talking nickels and pennies here people.

Btw, I like Kane's idea. Unlimited playtime, level caps. This is a really good idea actually. The only downside to it is more strain on the server, Lol. I jokes, there is no downside.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:04 AM   #10
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"pull an MMOLands" see that's been done and said. some stupid **** convinced Aaron to do that crap and it ruined the game. it got us phylon...stupidest ****in thing there was.
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Old 03-31-2008, 03:30 PM   #11
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Guys, it's really not about that we should pay, but monthly fee allows them to be able to run the game...Most games that isnt monthly fee doesn't last long because they can't pay to keep the server up.
If you don't want to pay, don't....Go play a different game like runescape, endless online, dragon fable, adventure quest. Play while you can for free and enjoy it, and then you could go get a job so you can pay to play instead of sitting here whinning...
Think of all blizzard's games. They have good graphics good gameplay and good feel. Now think of Adventure Quest...Crappy graphics, crappy gameplay, and crappy feel that vertually, depresses you. Adventure quest sucks because it has 1 TIME PAYMENT OR NO PAYMENT AT ALL. Go play that game and tell me if you think we should have 1 time pay or free... THINK ABOUT IT

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Old 03-31-2008, 04:29 PM   #12
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should devs pop out new content fast enough, and sell it as expansions, it could be the same as monthly payments, example:

1 time payment of original game

every 3 months, an expansion with new content for 30 bucks, or an expansion for 10 bucks every month.

it doesn't assure the devs consistent paychecks like a monthly fee does tho, so it ain't happening

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Old 03-31-2008, 06:47 PM   #13
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k i personally think that it should be a one time fee, its a lot easier on poor people like me and $50-60 dollars is quite a bit of money, for me at least. I play wow a lot or used to and it makes it hard to play cause everymonth i have to pay and sometimes i just dont have the doe, especially when i have to pay for some other bills. I like the idea where u give first month or two free just to make sure that it runs smoothly. Another thing i dont mind if we have an item shop or not thats totally up to u guys!
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Or go create a game and see how hard it is to get a team, pay them, and host a server...I also agree with Kane
CMFxBlood, you could baby sit a kid in your town for 1 night and you could get money enough for like 2-3 months....Its NOT THAT HARD..and toward a free month....THATS WHAT ALPHA COULD BE USED FOR!? Theres still alot of glitches in EA but go to youtube and type in WoW glitches...your going to find A TON of them... thats what updates/patches are for.
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:03 PM   #15
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well thing is i probably could get money but monthly fees are a pain, in my mind. hell i dont mind payin either, if its like 10 a month ill gladly pay to play this game.
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Well, if you dont like monthly fees, you could pay for a year, theres a big discount on it and its only 1 payment for a year but no auto rebill for the next year...
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well thing is i probably could get money but monthly fees are a pain, in my mind. hell i dont mind payin either, if its like 10 a month ill gladly pay to play this game.
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I don't remember who said it, but WoW does NOT have good gameplay, it doesn't even have a decent RP server for the most part, it's just full of people looking for cybersex (eww). If the whole concept is "Point a mouse, click on a mob ONCE, and then press hotkey buttons you've memorized for skills while you watch TV for half an hour and glance at the screen once in a while to make sure you aren't dead", it isn't good gameplay, hence the term "Point, Click, and drop dead bored".
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Well, if you dont like monthly fees, you could pay for a year, theres a big discount on it and its only 1 payment for a year but no auto rebill for the next year...
Oh yeah! forgot about year payments, ahhh see thats smarts. thxs for reminding me of that!
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ok guys Now we all love Endless Ages for all its glory but here's my question to you. Are you willing to pay $10 a month for a game right off the bat from its possible May 2008 re-release? IMO I think that DME's best bet would be to launch the game with a free to play status for a month or so to slowly make sure everything goes steady off of Beta and that everyone is happy. Then they should pull an MMOLands and let the people who don't want to pay, continue to play in BoomTown but the people who want the rest of the game pay a ONE TIME fee of $50-$60 and have an online store for special items of armor or weapons and so on. This way paying is more like an option than an absolute necessity and it will more likely than not give the game an even bigger cult following. I mean if years after its release and fall, people like us still took the time to search for it then I think there will be plenty of people buying extras to make a decent profit.

so Monthly? or 1 time with extras?
Worst idea ever /backhand.
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Old 04-08-2008, 04:08 PM   #20
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Seriously...your wasting your time here. If you arent happy with it, then go make some cash and BUY a subscription. Ull change your mind fast. If not, GTFO! (lol no offence).
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Premiums wouldn't really help much in EA because it's already to easy so before they put in things to make people more powerful they would have to make the game seriously harder. A lot of people may not like prems but it is businesss =p.
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